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Bad Habit · People Person

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Bad Habit · People Person

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Date: Nov 22, 2005

Wacom allowed?

Bad Habit · People Person

You can use a wacom if you want, i have never used one but i know people who have. Me, I personally still loves to ink it on the original board, i think that is still the best way to get the kind of quality i want.

Date: Nov 23, 2005

Since Brooks pencils are so percise. Isn't it like tracing? Pretty impossible to make a mistake. Right?

Bad Habit · People Person

You would be surprised that it seems that easy, but it is not. In fact the tighter the pencils the more pressure there is not to screw it up. I do what i can to keep the integrity of his work and add my own little flair.

Well Mark is one of the few pencilers that could do without inks in this industry.In fact he would make more money per page without an Inker, But since he ask me to ink his stuff i take that as an honor and a confidence that he puts into my work over him. He has had very few people ink him and he continues to tell me he prefers my inks over him instead of his pencils directly colored, i guess that counts for something.

-- Edited by Bad Habit at 09:08, 2005-11-23

-- Edited by Bad Habit at 09:10, 2005-11-23

Moshihoo · Inky pants!

Bad Habit wrote:

Well Mark is one of the few pencilers that could do without inks in this industry.In fact he would make more money per page without an Inker

Hey Himee,

I think you just sparked a lightbulb in one of the tight pencillers out there. Another tracer bites the dust and they're comin after you. RUN!

Beyonder · First Mate!

gonna give it a try tomorrow :)

Bad Habit · People Person

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I just screwed myself.

Mark knows this, he's the one who told me about the more money per page.

I'm not to worried, or Am I.

Bad Habit · People Person

Beyonder wrote:

gonna give it a try tomorrow :)

Cool! Have fun!

Moshihoo · Inky pants!

Bad Habit wrote:

NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just screwed myself.
Mark knows this, he's the one who told me about the more money per page.
I'm not to worried, or Am I.

No, you made other tracers cry. I'll get you Mendoza!!!

Beyonder · First Mate!

Moshihoo wrote:

Bad Habit wrote:
NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I just screwed myself.
Mark knows this, he's the one who told me about the more money per page.
I'm not to worried, or Am I.

No, you made other tracers cry. I'll get you Mendoza!!!

you know, I had that quote in my head the first time I came on the blogspot :p
From that simpsons episode.

Beyonder · First Mate!

I chose a part of the picture to do.

Bad Habit · People Person

I was wondering how did you go about inking it? Did you download and print it on bristol board? Or did you print it out on paper and then inked over it with velum? Either way i think it's cool that you took the time to ink up something.

It's not bad for your first attempt. You're conture lines are pretty good,relatively clean. You made sure to keep the solidity, that's very important as stated above in the lesson.

The face is pretty good also. Just remember to be careful with the eyes, also try to keep them as clean and solid as possible. The eyes really achor the face and can make of break what the artist is trying to convey. Trust me, i have had pencilers tell me the same thing.

The hair always being the hardest part (imho) so that is soemthing that i don't expect anyone to master in their first few attempts.Just remember to keep the hair that frames the face a little more solid. It will help anchor the face and look like it's attached to the head.

Like i said i think it is a pretty good first attempt.

I will post more pencil pages if you and anyone else want to do more projects.

Beyonder · First Mate!

Bad Habit wrote:

I was wondering how did you go about inking it? Did you download and print it on bristol board? Or did you print it out on paper and then inked over it with velum? Either way i think it's cool that you took the time to ink up something.
It's not bad for your first attempt. You're conture lines are pretty good,relatively clean. You made sure to keep the solidity, that's very important as stated above in the lesson.
The face is pretty good also. Just remember to be careful with the eyes, also try to keep them as clean and solid as possible. The eyes really achor the face and can make of break what the artist is trying to convey. Trust me, i have had pencilers tell me the same thing.
The hair always being the hardest part (imho) so that is soemthing that i don't expect anyone to master in their first few attempts.Just remember to keep the hair that frames the face a little more solid. It will help anchor the face and look like it's attached to the head.
Like i said i think it is a pretty good first attempt.
I will post more pencil pages if you and anyone else want to do more projects.

took the image and inked it with a wacom on the image itself :)
Next time it would help to have a bit higher dpi because the image itself when zoomed in was very grainy.

I just zoom in and threat zone by zone in painter 9 where you can tilt the canvas itself at will while I'm using the scratchboard tool to ink.

Can you elaborate on what you mean specifically with keeping the eyes clean?

And well, since it's zoomed in quite a bit, it's often hard to see the full picture of the hair, so I usually trust the drawn lines I have in my sight.

And perhaps it's best to space the tutorials out a bit until we get more users, because I'd like to see some other people try too, and if they try it, and don't finish before the next project is there, they might not want to try again.

Just a hint, and thanks for the review :)

The Jastrom · Pod Person.

I couldn't possibly use wacom i just cant look at a screen and draw something that's sitting in my lap or in a different place. I'm gonna get crackin' on this pic! The old fashion way.

Is the reason something like Rapidographs is bad is because they reall offer no help in line weights? I need to force myself to use a quill I do have some.

Bad Habit · People Person

The Jastrom wrote:

I couldn't possibly use wacom i just cant look at a screen and draw something that's sitting in my lap or in a different place. I'm gonna get crackin' on this pic! The old fashion way. Is the reason something like Rapidographs is bad is because they reall offer no help in line weights? I need to force myself to use a quill I do have some.

Awesome man, it will be cool to see what you will do with it.

Yeah a Rapidopraph gives you a static line weight. Now some artist can use tech pens and make it work in the style they are going for. But generaly i would push for people to use and practice with the Crow quill 102. It can be hard and frustrating but you can do some really cool work with it.

Bad Habit · People Person

I thought that this time i would show a peice in a more transitional state. This is the Cover to New X-men #24, by Mark Brooks and Jaime Mendoza.

The Character is Mercury and she has metallic skin. One of the most important things is that the interior detail lines be slick and smooth. they should have an almost water look to them. Now the interior lines should also vary in line weights and thickness but be careful not to beef up the line too much and avoid thin scratchy lines also. You want to the keep the interior details smooth and subtle. the Conture lines(out line of face and body) and interior lines should not compete.

Here is the clean pencil version of the top part of the peice.

Beginings of inks.

Below you can see that i have done more and started on the hair. As always the hair must flow and have a nice solid look to it, but not too rigid or it will look like woood or plastic. Line variation with hair is key to giving it that nice organic look.

-- Edited by Bad Habit at 13:34, 2005-12-30

Bad Habit · People Person

Here is the final inked cover (wish i had a bigger version) as well as the final colored cover.

Brekken · Art Babe.

WoW! Absolute Awesomness. I liked seeing the whole process and the finished product.

-bREKKEN

Beyonder · First Mate!

Very impressed by the last one.

Bad Habit · People Person

Thanks! It's one of my personal favorites.

ShermFactor · Inker Assassin.

hey jaime, when you ink a page what size is that page, i found i easier to ink on the full 11x17 cause i have a easier time getting different line weights and a better visibility on details however it may it takes more ink but seems faster for me. also do companys have a house style when it comes to inking like the marvel writing style or top cow penciling.

Bad Habit · People Person

Everything that i ink is 11x17, unless it's a trading card then it is smaller. As far as inking styles most companies do not. The Modern nib dominated style is the most preferred at this time some brush but not nearly.

Usually the penciler will have the most to say wether he likes the style of inks over his pencils than anyone else. Pencilers can and do get inkers jobs. Always give the penciler nice clean lines first and then style will come out of skill.

ShermFactor · Inker Assassin.

the inks that ive uploaded here were done on 8.5x11 the next ones that ill have done will be on 11x17 hopefully those will come out better

brad_price · Member

i was working on inking the penciled witchblade on my wacom.. i created a new layer in photoshop so that i can ink on top and then turn off the pencil layer.. i was thinking about the arana cover.. and will try that this weekend so i can have the pencils and then your inks to compare to.. i will upload whenever i get finished.. maybe i will do it in the small bits like yours so i don't have to take on a whole page for a first attempt..

to answer your question about wanting more.. i would like more so that i could learn how to do this..

brad_price · Member

here is a page i inked today from the tutorial.. let me know how i did and what i might need to improve on.

Delurio · Newbie

Well, I'm using the hunt 102 crow quill, but how do you know when to replace it?

Bad Habit · People Person

The crow quill will always retain it's flexablilty, but wwhen it starts to produced a dull line then you should replace it.

Delurio · Newbie

In your opinion, how tight and clean does lineart have to be for an inker to work with? I've looked at Mark Brook's pencils and then I got the Civil War sketchbook and looked at some obvious smudges and light lines throughout the other artists' lineart.